From scque at ymail.com Fri Nov 6 06:44:56 2009 From: scque at ymail.com (Sc'Eric (aka sc'Que?)) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 03:44:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [StClg--2009.11.18--AllAges] ECHO & THE BUNNYMEN Message-ID: <830839.61469.qm@web59808.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> -- Wednesday, 18 November 2009 -- The State Theatre, in cooperation with Roustabout! events presents: ECHO & THE BUNNYMEN w/ Hatcham Social Show starts at 8pm.? Refreshments available in the box office.? (Availability of alcoholic beverages TBA.)? Tickets: $26 Parking: Free on the street, after 6pm... or look for one of our local parking garages!? (There's three within 2 blocks of the venue.)? Other local dinner and social venues listed at the end of the post....? Echo & the Bunnymen English post-punk group, Echo & the Bunnymen was formed in 1978. After several splits and rejuvenations, Echo & the Bunnymen is back with their latest album, The Fountain. ??? The Fountain is a massive return to form. It is a superbly feisty album of pulsating, uplifting rock anthems such as the joyous "Think I Need It Too", "Do You Know Who I Am", "Forgotten Fields", "Everlasting" and the Bowie-esque pop of "Proxy, Shroud Of Turin" all centered around a grand, reflective soul-stirring ballad "The Idolness Of Gods". It is a powerful album that sees the Bunnymen back to their very best and with a truly modern sensibility that should see a whole new generation [discover one of the UK's] most iconic bands. ??? The Fountain was kick-started in 2007 when McCulloch began working on some new ideas with three London-based musicians. ?I thought Will (Sergeant) and I needed to do stuff differently, but so the result still sounded like the Bunnymen,? he says. ?What we got with 'Think I Need It Too' and 'Forgotten Fields', I thought, yeah, this is how it should sound.? ??? The album was pieced together over the next year, with Mac and Will working on tracks at Parr Street Recording Studios in Liverpool. http://www.myspace.com/thebunnymenhttp://www.bunnymen.com Hatcham Social ??? Hatcham Social are a London four-piece band composed of brothers Tobias and Finnigan Kidd, bassist David Javu and guitarist and keyboardist, Jerome Watson. Hatcham Social play indie pop and post-punk shoegaze. Since their formation in 2005, Hatcham Social has released four seven-inch singles and two analogue tapes? worth of material inspired by children?s fiction and 1980s indie. http://www.myspace.com/hatchamsocial For those of you traveling, I've compiled a list of local establishments where you can grab a bite to eat (and even a beer or tasty cocktail) before the show.... Get here before 6pm and visit The Cheese Shoppe for locally roasted gourmet coffees and tea!? (www.WCClarke.com) Questions about the show?? Please email the venue.? (www.TheStateTheatre.org) Questions about other area establishments?? Simply reply to this post!? Sit-down eating establishments (within walking distance): Allen Street Grille ~ midrange, local Arby's ~ low-end, chain Brother's Pizza ~ low-end, semi-local Chili's ~ mid-range, chain The Corner Room ~ low-end, local Five Guys ~ low-end, chain Golden Wok ~ mid-range, local Herwig's Austrian Bistro ~ mid-range, local? (Personally recommended, but keep reading...!) India Pavilion ~ mid-range, local (Be sure to check out the Cheese Shoppe, next door, before 6pm for locally-roasted coffees!)? Irving's Bagels ~ low-end, local Panera ~ mid-range, chain Penn State Sub Shop ~ low-end, local Qdoba ~ low-end, chainRotelli ~ mid-range, semi-local Sarina's II ~ mid-range, semi-local Spat's Cafe & Speakeasy ~ upscale, local Taco Bell ~ low-end, chain The Tarragon ~ upscale, semi-local The Tavern ~ mid-range, local Webster's Bookstore Cafe ~ low-end, local? (Locally blended teas and chai, gourmet coffee beverages and light nibbles...) Ye Olde College Diner ~ low-end, local Zeno's ~ upscale, local? (Beer-bar with pub-grub before 7pm) Zola ~ upscale, local Area restaurants (within short driving distance): Alto ~ upscale, localThe American Alehouse & Grille ~ upscale, local The Autoport ~ mid-range, local Baby's Burgers & Shakes ~ mid-range, localBelly Buster Burritos ~ low-end, semi-local Champs ~ mid-range sportsbar, local Corrinado's Pizza ~ low-to-mid-range, local (Vegan options!) Cozy Thai ~ mid-range, local The Deli ~ mid-range, localFaccia Luna ~ mid-range, local (Wood-fired pizza!) Fuji & Jade Garden ~ mid-range, local (Highly recommended!!! --Hey, I'm the bar manager there... Did I mention you can get the party started here?!?? Huge portions, plus top-shelf cocktails and microbrews!? Since it's my day off, Frankie will be taking care of you.? **Sit at the bar, mention you're going to the Echo & the Bunnymen show [before you order] and get a special deal!**)?Harrison's Wine Country Grille ~ upscale, local Hi-Way Pizza ~ mid-range, local Hooter's ~ low-end, chain Hoss's Steakhouse ~ mid-range, local Hunan Wok & Noodle House ~ low-end, local Kelly's Steakhouse ~ mid-range, local Kimchi ~ mid-range, local Mad Mex ~ mid-range, semi-local Mario & Luigi's ~ upscale, local McDonald's ~ low-end, chainOlde New York ~ mid-range, local Otto's ~ mid-range brewpub, localOutback Steakhouse ~ mid-range, chain Pizza Hut ~ mid-range, chain Quizno's Subs ~ low-end, chain Red Lobster ~ mid-range, chain Say Sushi ~ mid-range, localSeoul Garden ~ mid-range, localViet-Thai ~ mid-range, local From arixey at gmail.com Fri Nov 6 07:40:14 2009 From: arixey at gmail.com (Adam Rixey) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 07:40:14 -0500 Subject: [StClg--2009.11.18--AllAges] ECHO & THE BUNNYMEN In-Reply-To: <830839.61469.qm@web59808.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <830839.61469.qm@web59808.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I hate to break it to you, but the whole tour was cancelled yesterday due to tax issues. On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Sc'Eric (aka sc'Que?) < scque at ymail.com> wrote: > -- Wednesday, 18 November 2009 -- > > The State Theatre, in cooperation with Roustabout! events presents: > > ECHO & THE BUNNYMEN > w/ Hatcham Social > > Show starts at 8pm. Refreshments available in the box office. > (Availability of alcoholic beverages TBA.) > > Tickets: $26 > > Parking: Free on the street, after 6pm... or look for one of our local > parking garages! (There's three within 2 blocks of the venue.) > > Other local dinner and social venues listed at the end of the post.... > > > Echo & the Bunnymen > English > post-punk group, Echo & the Bunnymen was formed in 1978. After > several splits and rejuvenations, Echo & the Bunnymen is back with > their latest album, The Fountain. > The Fountain is a massive > return to form. It is a superbly feisty album of pulsating, uplifting > rock anthems such as the joyous "Think I Need It Too", "Do You Know Who I > Am", "Forgotten Fields", "Everlasting" and the Bowie-esque pop of "Proxy, > Shroud Of Turin" all centered around a grand, reflective soul-stirring > ballad "The Idolness Of Gods". It is a powerful album that sees the > Bunnymen back to their very best and with a truly modern sensibility > that should see a whole new generation [discover one of the UK's] most > iconic bands. > The Fountain was kick-started in 2007 when McCulloch began working on > some new ideas with three London-based musicians. ?I thought Will (Sergeant) > and I needed to do stuff differently, but so the result still sounded like > the > Bunnymen,? he says. ?What we got with 'Think I Need It Too' and 'Forgotten > Fields', I thought, yeah, this is how it should sound.? > The album was pieced together over the next year, with Mac and Will > working > on tracks at Parr Street Recording Studios in Liverpool. > http://www.myspace.com/thebunnymenhttp://www.bunnymen.com > > Hatcham Social > > Hatcham Social are a London four-piece band composed of brothers Tobias > and Finnigan Kidd, bassist David Javu and guitarist and keyboardist, > Jerome Watson. Hatcham Social play indie pop and post-punk shoegaze. > Since their formation in 2005, Hatcham Social has released four > seven-inch singles and two analogue tapes? worth of material inspired > by children?s fiction and 1980s indie. > http://www.myspace.com/hatchamsocial > For those of you traveling, I've compiled a list of local establishments > where you can grab a bite to eat (and even a beer or tasty cocktail) before > the show.... > > Get here before 6pm and visit The Cheese Shoppe for locally roasted gourmet > coffees and tea! (www.WCClarke.com) > > Questions about the show? Please email the venue. > (www.TheStateTheatre.org) > Questions about other area establishments? Simply reply to this post! > > > Sit-down eating establishments (within walking distance): > Allen Street Grille ~ midrange, local > Arby's ~ low-end, chain > Brother's Pizza ~ low-end, semi-local > Chili's ~ mid-range, chain > The Corner Room ~ low-end, local > Five Guys ~ low-end, chain > Golden Wok ~ mid-range, local > Herwig's Austrian Bistro ~ mid-range, local (Personally recommended, but > keep reading...!) > India Pavilion ~ mid-range, local (Be sure to check out the Cheese Shoppe, > next door, before 6pm for locally-roasted coffees!) > Irving's Bagels ~ low-end, local > Panera ~ mid-range, chain > Penn State Sub Shop ~ low-end, local > Qdoba ~ low-end, chainRotelli ~ mid-range, semi-local > Sarina's II ~ mid-range, semi-local > Spat's Cafe & Speakeasy ~ upscale, local > Taco Bell ~ low-end, chain > The Tarragon ~ upscale, semi-local > The Tavern ~ mid-range, local > Webster's Bookstore Cafe ~ low-end, local (Locally blended teas and chai, > gourmet coffee beverages and light nibbles...) > Ye Olde College Diner ~ low-end, local > Zeno's ~ upscale, local (Beer-bar with pub-grub before 7pm) > Zola ~ upscale, local > Area restaurants (within short driving distance): > Alto ~ upscale, localThe American Alehouse & Grille ~ upscale, local > The Autoport ~ mid-range, local > Baby's Burgers & Shakes ~ mid-range, localBelly Buster Burritos ~ low-end, > semi-local > Champs ~ mid-range sportsbar, local > Corrinado's Pizza ~ low-to-mid-range, local (Vegan options!) > > Cozy Thai ~ mid-range, local > The Deli ~ mid-range, localFaccia Luna ~ mid-range, local (Wood-fired > pizza!) > Fuji & Jade Garden ~ mid-range, local (Highly recommended!!! --Hey, I'm the > bar manager there... Did I mention you can get the party started here?!? > Huge portions, plus top-shelf cocktails and microbrews! Since it's my day > off, Frankie will be taking care of you. **Sit at the bar, mention you're > going to the Echo & the Bunnymen show [before you order] and get a special > deal!**) Harrison's Wine Country Grille ~ upscale, local > Hi-Way Pizza ~ mid-range, local > Hooter's ~ low-end, chain > Hoss's Steakhouse ~ mid-range, local > Hunan Wok & Noodle House ~ low-end, local > Kelly's Steakhouse ~ mid-range, local > Kimchi ~ mid-range, local > Mad Mex ~ mid-range, semi-local > Mario & Luigi's ~ upscale, local > McDonald's ~ low-end, chainOlde New York ~ mid-range, local > Otto's ~ mid-range brewpub, localOutback Steakhouse ~ mid-range, chain > Pizza Hut ~ mid-range, chain > Quizno's Subs ~ low-end, chain > Red Lobster ~ mid-range, chain > Say Sushi ~ mid-range, localSeoul Garden ~ mid-range, localViet-Thai ~ > mid-range, local > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pgh-goth-list mailing list > pgh-goth-list at listless.org > http://www.listless.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-goth-list > -- Adam Rixey arixey at gmail.com From brian.j.parker at gmail.com Fri Nov 6 08:19:37 2009 From: brian.j.parker at gmail.com (Brian J. Parker) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 08:19:37 -0500 Subject: [StClg--2009.11.18--AllAges] ECHO & THE BUNNYMEN In-Reply-To: References: <830839.61469.qm@web59808.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Oh my. Last time I went to see E&tB, at a festival, the singer stormed offstage after about three minutes and they stopped playing. Not a good band to make plans around, apparently. On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Adam Rixey wrote: > I hate to break it to you, but the whole tour was cancelled yesterday due to > tax issues. > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Sc'Eric (aka sc'Que?) < > scque at ymail.com> wrote: > >> -- Wednesday, 18 November 2009 -- >> >> The State Theatre, in cooperation with Roustabout! events presents: >> >> ECHO & THE BUNNYMEN >> w/ Hatcham Social >> >> Show starts at 8pm. ?Refreshments available in the box office. >> (Availability of alcoholic beverages TBA.) >> >> Tickets: $26 >> >> Parking: Free on the street, after 6pm... or look for one of our local >> parking garages! ?(There's three within 2 blocks of the venue.) >> >> Other local dinner and social venues listed at the end of the post.... >> >> >> Echo & the Bunnymen >> English >> post-punk group, Echo & the Bunnymen was formed in 1978. After >> several splits and rejuvenations, Echo & the Bunnymen is back with >> their latest album, The Fountain. >> ? ? The Fountain is a massive >> return to form. It is a superbly feisty album of pulsating, uplifting >> rock anthems such as the joyous "Think I Need It Too", "Do You Know Who I >> Am", "Forgotten Fields", "Everlasting" and the Bowie-esque pop of "Proxy, >> Shroud Of Turin" all centered around a grand, reflective soul-stirring >> ballad "The Idolness Of Gods". It is a powerful album that sees the >> Bunnymen back to their very best and with a truly modern sensibility >> that should see a whole new generation [discover one of the UK's] most >> iconic bands. >> ? ? The Fountain was kick-started in 2007 when McCulloch began working on >> some new ideas with three London-based musicians. ?I thought Will (Sergeant) >> and I needed to do stuff differently, but so the result still sounded like >> the >> Bunnymen,? he says. ?What we got with 'Think I Need It Too' and 'Forgotten >> Fields', I thought, yeah, this is how it should sound.? >> ? ? The album was pieced together over the next year, with Mac and Will >> working >> on tracks at Parr Street Recording Studios in Liverpool. >> http://www.myspace.com/thebunnymenhttp://www.bunnymen.com >> >> Hatcham Social >> >> Hatcham Social are a London four-piece band composed of brothers Tobias >> and Finnigan Kidd, bassist David Javu and guitarist and keyboardist, >> Jerome Watson. Hatcham Social play indie pop and post-punk shoegaze. >> Since their formation in 2005, Hatcham Social has released four >> seven-inch singles and two analogue tapes? worth of material inspired >> by children?s fiction and 1980s indie. >> http://www.myspace.com/hatchamsocial >> For those of you traveling, I've compiled a list of local establishments >> where you can grab a bite to eat (and even a beer or tasty cocktail) before >> the show.... >> >> Get here before 6pm and visit The Cheese Shoppe for locally roasted gourmet >> coffees and tea! ?(www.WCClarke.com) >> >> Questions about the show? ?Please email the venue. >> (www.TheStateTheatre.org) >> Questions about other area establishments? ?Simply reply to this post! >> >> >> Sit-down eating establishments (within walking distance): >> Allen Street Grille ~ midrange, local >> Arby's ~ low-end, chain >> Brother's Pizza ~ low-end, semi-local >> Chili's ~ mid-range, chain >> The Corner Room ~ low-end, local >> Five Guys ~ low-end, chain >> Golden Wok ~ mid-range, local >> Herwig's Austrian Bistro ~ mid-range, local ?(Personally recommended, but >> keep reading...!) >> India Pavilion ~ mid-range, local (Be sure to check out the Cheese Shoppe, >> next door, before 6pm for locally-roasted coffees!) >> Irving's Bagels ~ low-end, local >> Panera ~ mid-range, chain >> Penn State Sub Shop ~ low-end, local >> Qdoba ~ low-end, chainRotelli ~ mid-range, semi-local >> Sarina's II ~ mid-range, semi-local >> Spat's Cafe & Speakeasy ~ upscale, local >> Taco Bell ~ low-end, chain >> The Tarragon ~ upscale, semi-local >> The Tavern ~ mid-range, local >> Webster's Bookstore Cafe ~ low-end, local ?(Locally blended teas and chai, >> gourmet coffee beverages and light nibbles...) >> Ye Olde College Diner ~ low-end, local >> Zeno's ~ upscale, local ?(Beer-bar with pub-grub before 7pm) >> Zola ~ upscale, local >> Area restaurants (within short driving distance): >> Alto ~ upscale, localThe American Alehouse & Grille ~ upscale, local >> The Autoport ~ mid-range, local >> Baby's Burgers & Shakes ~ mid-range, localBelly Buster Burritos ~ low-end, >> semi-local >> Champs ~ mid-range sportsbar, local >> Corrinado's Pizza ~ low-to-mid-range, local (Vegan options!) >> >> Cozy Thai ~ mid-range, local >> The Deli ~ mid-range, localFaccia Luna ~ mid-range, local (Wood-fired >> pizza!) >> Fuji & Jade Garden ~ mid-range, local (Highly recommended!!! --Hey, I'm the >> bar manager there... Did I mention you can get the party started here?!? >> Huge portions, plus top-shelf cocktails and microbrews! ?Since it's my day >> off, Frankie will be taking care of you. ?**Sit at the bar, mention you're >> going to the Echo & the Bunnymen show [before you order] and get a special >> deal!**) Harrison's Wine Country Grille ~ upscale, local >> Hi-Way Pizza ~ mid-range, local >> Hooter's ~ low-end, chain >> Hoss's Steakhouse ~ mid-range, local >> Hunan Wok & Noodle House ~ low-end, local >> Kelly's Steakhouse ~ mid-range, local >> Kimchi ~ mid-range, local >> Mad Mex ~ mid-range, semi-local >> Mario & Luigi's ~ upscale, local >> McDonald's ~ low-end, chainOlde New York ~ mid-range, local >> Otto's ~ mid-range brewpub, localOutback Steakhouse ~ mid-range, chain >> Pizza Hut ~ mid-range, chain >> Quizno's Subs ~ low-end, chain >> Red Lobster ~ mid-range, chain >> Say Sushi ~ mid-range, localSeoul Garden ~ mid-range, localViet-Thai ~ >> mid-range, local >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pgh-goth-list mailing list >> pgh-goth-list at listless.org >> http://www.listless.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-goth-list >> > > > > -- > Adam Rixey > arixey at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > pgh-goth-list mailing list > pgh-goth-list at listless.org > http://www.listless.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-goth-list > From xopher.tm at gmail.com Fri Nov 6 15:08:39 2009 From: xopher.tm at gmail.com (Christopher Mattick) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:08:39 -0500 Subject: [StClg--2009.11.18--AllAges] ECHO & THE BUNNYMEN In-Reply-To: References: <830839.61469.qm@web59808.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Pity. I saw Echo a number of times in the mid-80's. Was very enjoyable. On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Brian J. Parker wrote: > Oh my. Last time I went to see E&tB, at a festival, the singer > stormed offstage after about three minutes and they stopped playing. > Not a good band to make plans around, apparently. > > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Adam Rixey wrote: >> I hate to break it to you, but the whole tour was cancelled yesterday due to >> tax issues. >> >> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Sc'Eric (aka sc'Que?) < >> scque at ymail.com> wrote: >> >>> -- Wednesday, 18 November 2009 -- >>> >>> The State Theatre, in cooperation with Roustabout! events presents: >>> >>> ECHO & THE BUNNYMEN >>> w/ Hatcham Social >>> >>> Show starts at 8pm. Refreshments available in the box office. >>> (Availability of alcoholic beverages TBA.) >>> >>> Tickets: $26 >>> >>> Parking: Free on the street, after 6pm... or look for one of our local >>> parking garages! (There's three within 2 blocks of the venue.) >>> >>> Other local dinner and social venues listed at the end of the post.... >>> >>> >>> Echo & the Bunnymen >>> English >>> post-punk group, Echo & the Bunnymen was formed in 1978. After >>> several splits and rejuvenations, Echo & the Bunnymen is back with >>> their latest album, The Fountain. >>> The Fountain is a massive >>> return to form. It is a superbly feisty album of pulsating, uplifting >>> rock anthems such as the joyous "Think I Need It Too", "Do You Know Who I >>> Am", "Forgotten Fields", "Everlasting" and the Bowie-esque pop of "Proxy, >>> Shroud Of Turin" all centered around a grand, reflective soul-stirring >>> ballad "The Idolness Of Gods". It is a powerful album that sees the >>> Bunnymen back to their very best and with a truly modern sensibility >>> that should see a whole new generation [discover one of the UK's] most >>> iconic bands. >>> The Fountain was kick-started in 2007 when McCulloch began working on >>> some new ideas with three London-based musicians. "I thought Will (Sergeant) >>> and I needed to do stuff differently, but so the result still sounded like >>> the >>> Bunnymen," he says. "What we got with 'Think I Need It Too' and 'Forgotten >>> Fields', I thought, yeah, this is how it should sound." >>> The album was pieced together over the next year, with Mac and Will >>> working >>> on tracks at Parr Street Recording Studios in Liverpool. >>> http://www.myspace.com/thebunnymenhttp://www.bunnymen.com >>> >>> Hatcham Social >>> >>> Hatcham Social are a London four-piece band composed of brothers Tobias >>> and Finnigan Kidd, bassist David Javu and guitarist and keyboardist, >>> Jerome Watson. Hatcham Social play indie pop and post-punk shoegaze. >>> Since their formation in 2005, Hatcham Social has released four >>> seven-inch singles and two analogue tapes' worth of material inspired >>> by children's fiction and 1980s indie. >>> http://www.myspace.com/hatchamsocial >>> For those of you traveling, I've compiled a list of local establishments >>> where you can grab a bite to eat (and even a beer or tasty cocktail) before >>> the show.... >>> >>> Get here before 6pm and visit The Cheese Shoppe for locally roasted gourmet >>> coffees and tea! (www.WCClarke.com) >>> >>> Questions about the show? Please email the venue. >>> (www.TheStateTheatre.org) >>> Questions about other area establishments? Simply reply to this post! >>> >>> >>> Sit-down eating establishments (within walking distance): >>> Allen Street Grille ~ midrange, local >>> Arby's ~ low-end, chain >>> Brother's Pizza ~ low-end, semi-local >>> Chili's ~ mid-range, chain >>> The Corner Room ~ low-end, local >>> Five Guys ~ low-end, chain >>> Golden Wok ~ mid-range, local >>> Herwig's Austrian Bistro ~ mid-range, local (Personally recommended, but >>> keep reading...!) >>> India Pavilion ~ mid-range, local (Be sure to check out the Cheese Shoppe, >>> next door, before 6pm for locally-roasted coffees!) >>> Irving's Bagels ~ low-end, local >>> Panera ~ mid-range, chain >>> Penn State Sub Shop ~ low-end, local >>> Qdoba ~ low-end, chainRotelli ~ mid-range, semi-local >>> Sarina's II ~ mid-range, semi-local >>> Spat's Cafe & Speakeasy ~ upscale, local >>> Taco Bell ~ low-end, chain >>> The Tarragon ~ upscale, semi-local >>> The Tavern ~ mid-range, local >>> Webster's Bookstore Cafe ~ low-end, local (Locally blended teas and chai, >>> gourmet coffee beverages and light nibbles...) >>> Ye Olde College Diner ~ low-end, local >>> Zeno's ~ upscale, local (Beer-bar with pub-grub before 7pm) >>> Zola ~ upscale, local >>> Area restaurants (within short driving distance): >>> Alto ~ upscale, localThe American Alehouse & Grille ~ upscale, local >>> The Autoport ~ mid-range, local >>> Baby's Burgers & Shakes ~ mid-range, localBelly Buster Burritos ~ low-end, >>> semi-local >>> Champs ~ mid-range sportsbar, local >>> Corrinado's Pizza ~ low-to-mid-range, local (Vegan options!) >>> >>> Cozy Thai ~ mid-range, local >>> The Deli ~ mid-range, localFaccia Luna ~ mid-range, local (Wood-fired >>> pizza!) >>> Fuji & Jade Garden ~ mid-range, local (Highly recommended!!! --Hey, I'm the >>> bar manager there... Did I mention you can get the party started here?!? >>> Huge portions, plus top-shelf cocktails and microbrews! Since it's my day >>> off, Frankie will be taking care of you. **Sit at the bar, mention you're >>> going to the Echo & the Bunnymen show [before you order] and get a special >>> deal!**) Harrison's Wine Country Grille ~ upscale, local >>> Hi-Way Pizza ~ mid-range, local >>> Hooter's ~ low-end, chain >>> Hoss's Steakhouse ~ mid-range, local >>> Hunan Wok & Noodle House ~ low-end, local >>> Kelly's Steakhouse ~ mid-range, local >>> Kimchi ~ mid-range, local >>> Mad Mex ~ mid-range, semi-local >>> Mario & Luigi's ~ upscale, local >>> McDonald's ~ low-end, chainOlde New York ~ mid-range, local >>> Otto's ~ mid-range brewpub, localOutback Steakhouse ~ mid-range, chain >>> Pizza Hut ~ mid-range, chain >>> Quizno's Subs ~ low-end, chain >>> Red Lobster ~ mid-range, chain >>> Say Sushi ~ mid-range, localSeoul Garden ~ mid-range, localViet-Thai ~ >>> mid-range, local >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pgh-goth-list mailing list >>> pgh-goth-list at listless.org >>> http://www.listless.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-goth-list >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Adam Rixey >> arixey at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> pgh-goth-list mailing list >> pgh-goth-list at listless.org >> http://www.listless.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-goth-list >> > _______________________________________________ > pgh-goth-list mailing list > pgh-goth-list at listless.org > http://www.listless.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-goth-list > -- Christopher tm ???? ?? ??????????? ??? ????. From manny at garfieldartworks.com Fri Nov 6 15:22:21 2009 From: manny at garfieldartworks.com (manny at garfieldartworks.com) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:22:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: Echo & the Bunnymen Message-ID: <49371.70.20.65.156.1257538941.squirrel@webmail3.pair.com> What a strange place to book a Bunnymen gig, anyway. State College? College kids have no idea who the Bunnymen are. Must have been the work of Drusky, he does a lot of shows at the State Theatre. > Oh my. Last time I went to see E&tB, at a festival, the singer > stormed offstage after about three minutes and they stopped playing. > Not a good band to make plans around, apparently. > > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Adam Rixey wrote: >> I hate to break it to you, but the whole tour was cancelled yesterday >> due to >> tax issues. >> >> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Sc'Eric (aka sc'Que?) < >> scque at ymail.com> wrote: >> >>> -- Wednesday, 18 November 2009 -- >>> >>> The State Theatre, in cooperation with Roustabout! events presents: >>> >>> ECHO & THE BUNNYMEN >>> w/ Hatcham Social >>> >>> Show starts at 8pm. Refreshments available in the box office. >>> (Availability of alcoholic beverages TBA.) >>> >>> Tickets: $26 >>> >>> Parking: Free on the street, after 6pm... or look for one of our local >>> parking garages! (There's three within 2 blocks of the venue.) >>> >>> Other local dinner and social venues listed at the end of the post.... >>> >>> >>> Echo & the Bunnymen >>> English >>> post-punk group, Echo & the Bunnymen was formed in 1978. After >>> several splits and rejuvenations, Echo & the Bunnymen is back with >>> their latest album, The Fountain. >>> The Fountain is a massive >>> return to form. It is a superbly feisty album of pulsating, uplifting >>> rock anthems such as the joyous "Think I Need It Too", "Do You Know Who >>> I >>> Am", "Forgotten Fields", "Everlasting" and the Bowie-esque pop of >>> "Proxy, >>> Shroud Of Turin" all centered around a grand, reflective soul-stirring >>> ballad "The Idolness Of Gods". It is a powerful album that sees the >>> Bunnymen back to their very best and with a truly modern sensibility >>> that should see a whole new generation [discover one of the UK's] most >>> iconic bands. >>> The Fountain was kick-started in 2007 when McCulloch began working >>> on >>> some new ideas with three London-based musicians. ?I thought Will >>> (Sergeant) >>> and I needed to do stuff differently, but so the result still sounded >>> like >>> the >>> Bunnymen,? he says. ?What we got with 'Think I Need It Too' and >>> 'Forgotten >>> Fields', I thought, yeah, this is how it should sound.? >>> The album was pieced together over the next year, with Mac and Will >>> working >>> on tracks at Parr Street Recording Studios in Liverpool. >>> http://www.myspace.com/thebunnymenhttp://www.bunnymen.com >>> >>> Hatcham Social >>> >>> Hatcham Social are a London four-piece band composed of brothers Tobias >>> and Finnigan Kidd, bassist David Javu and guitarist and keyboardist, >>> Jerome Watson. Hatcham Social play indie pop and post-punk shoegaze. >>> Since their formation in 2005, Hatcham Social has released four >>> seven-inch singles and two analogue tapes? worth of material inspired >>> by children?s fiction and 1980s indie. >>> http://www.myspace.com/hatchamsocial >>> For those of you traveling, I've compiled a list of local >>> establishments >>> where you can grab a bite to eat (and even a beer or tasty cocktail) >>> before >>> the show.... >>> >>> Get here before 6pm and visit The Cheese Shoppe for locally roasted >>> gourmet >>> coffees and tea! (www.WCClarke.com) >>> >>> Questions about the show? Please email the venue. >>> (www.TheStateTheatre.org) >>> Questions about other area establishments? Simply reply to this post! >>> >>> >>> Sit-down eating establishments (within walking distance): >>> Allen Street Grille ~ midrange, local >>> Arby's ~ low-end, chain >>> Brother's Pizza ~ low-end, semi-local >>> Chili's ~ mid-range, chain >>> The Corner Room ~ low-end, local >>> Five Guys ~ low-end, chain >>> Golden Wok ~ mid-range, local >>> Herwig's Austrian Bistro ~ mid-range, local (Personally recommended, >>> but >>> keep reading...!) >>> India Pavilion ~ mid-range, local (Be sure to check out the Cheese >>> Shoppe, >>> next door, before 6pm for locally-roasted coffees!) >>> Irving's Bagels ~ low-end, local >>> Panera ~ mid-range, chain >>> Penn State Sub Shop ~ low-end, local >>> Qdoba ~ low-end, chainRotelli ~ mid-range, semi-local >>> Sarina's II ~ mid-range, semi-local >>> Spat's Cafe & Speakeasy ~ upscale, local >>> Taco Bell ~ low-end, chain >>> The Tarragon ~ upscale, semi-local >>> The Tavern ~ mid-range, local >>> Webster's Bookstore Cafe ~ low-end, local (Locally blended teas and >>> chai, >>> gourmet coffee beverages and light nibbles...) >>> Ye Olde College Diner ~ low-end, local >>> Zeno's ~ upscale, local (Beer-bar with pub-grub before 7pm) >>> Zola ~ upscale, local >>> Area restaurants (within short driving distance): >>> Alto ~ upscale, localThe American Alehouse & Grille ~ upscale, local >>> The Autoport ~ mid-range, local >>> Baby's Burgers & Shakes ~ mid-range, localBelly Buster Burritos ~ >>> low-end, >>> semi-local >>> Champs ~ mid-range sportsbar, local >>> Corrinado's Pizza ~ low-to-mid-range, local (Vegan options!) >>> >>> Cozy Thai ~ mid-range, local >>> The Deli ~ mid-range, localFaccia Luna ~ mid-range, local (Wood-fired >>> pizza!) >>> Fuji & Jade Garden ~ mid-range, local (Highly recommended!!! --Hey, I'm >>> the >>> bar manager there... Did I mention you can get the party started >>> here?!? >>> Huge portions, plus top-shelf cocktails and microbrews! Since it's my >>> day >>> off, Frankie will be taking care of you. **Sit at the bar, mention >>> you're >>> going to the Echo & the Bunnymen show [before you order] and get a >>> special >>> deal!**) Harrison's Wine Country Grille ~ upscale, local >>> Hi-Way Pizza ~ mid-range, local >>> Hooter's ~ low-end, chain >>> Hoss's Steakhouse ~ mid-range, local >>> Hunan Wok & Noodle House ~ low-end, local >>> Kelly's Steakhouse ~ mid-range, local >>> Kimchi ~ mid-range, local >>> Mad Mex ~ mid-range, semi-local >>> Mario & Luigi's ~ upscale, local >>> McDonald's ~ low-end, chainOlde New York ~ mid-range, local >>> Otto's ~ mid-range brewpub, localOutback Steakhouse ~ mid-range, chain >>> Pizza Hut ~ mid-range, chain >>> Quizno's Subs ~ low-end, chain >>> Red Lobster ~ mid-range, chain >>> Say Sushi ~ mid-range, localSeoul Garden ~ mid-range, localViet-Thai ~ >>> mid-range, local >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pgh-goth-list mailing list >>> pgh-goth-list at listless.org >>> http://www.listless.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-goth-list >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Adam Rixey >> arixey at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> pgh-goth-list mailing list >> pgh-goth-list at listless.org >> http://www.listless.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-goth-list >> > _______________________________________________ > pgh-goth-list mailing list > pgh-goth-list at listless.org > http://www.listless.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-goth-list > From scque at ymail.com Sun Nov 8 04:12:14 2009 From: scque at ymail.com (Sc'Eric (aka sc'Que?)) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 01:12:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: Bunnymen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <124090.1015.qm@web59807.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Yeah, being on the opposite side of the clock from y'uns, I probably sent that out just as the official announcement was going out.? Sorry to get anyone's hopes up.? In my tiny world of experience, whenever a European band that I'm interested in seeing decides to tour the States, they get refused for one reason or another.? Seems that unless the band is playing stadium-sized venues or lies about their intent, they have no chance of touring here legally.? And even the latter of those two options can backfire. Manny, any commentary on that?? ~sc'eric From: "Sc'Eric \(aka sc'Que?\)" Subject: [StClg--2009.11.18--AllAges] ECHO & THE BUNNYMEN -- Wednesday, 18 November 2009 -- The State Theatre, in cooperation with Roustabout! events presents: ECHO & THE BUNNYMEN w/ Hatcham Social Show starts at 8pm.? Refreshments available in the box office.? (Availability of alcoholic beverages TBA.)? Tickets: $26 Parking: Free on the street, after 6pm... or look for one of our local parking garages!? (There's three within 2 blocks of the venue.)? Other local dinner and social venues listed at the end of the post....? Echo & the Bunnymen English post-punk group, Echo & the Bunnymen was formed in 1978. After several splits and rejuvenations, Echo & the Bunnymen is back with their latest album, The Fountain. ??? The Fountain is a massive return to form. It is a superbly feisty album of pulsating, uplifting rock anthems such as the joyous "Think I Need It Too", "Do You Know Who I Am", "Forgotten Fields", "Everlasting" and the Bowie-esque pop of "Proxy, Shroud Of Turin" all centered around a grand, reflective soul-stirring ballad "The Idolness Of Gods". It is a powerful album that sees the Bunnymen back to their very best and with a truly modern sensibility that should see a whole new generation [discover one of the UK's] most iconic bands. ??? The Fountain was kick-started in 2007 when McCulloch began working on some new ideas with three London-based musicians. ?I thought Will (Sergeant) and I needed to do stuff differently, but so the result still sounded like the Bunnymen,? he says. ?What we got with 'Think I Need It Too' and 'Forgotten Fields', I thought, yeah, this is how it should sound.? ??? The album was pieced together over the next year, with Mac and Will working on tracks at Parr Street Recording Studios in Liverpool. http://www.myspace.com/thebunnymenhttp://www.bunnymen.com Hatcham Social ??? Hatcham Social are a London four-piece band composed of brothers Tobias and Finnigan Kidd, bassist David Javu and guitarist and keyboardist, Jerome Watson. Hatcham Social play indie pop and post-punk shoegaze. Since their formation in 2005, Hatcham Social has released four seven-inch singles and two analogue tapes? worth of material inspired by children?s fiction and 1980s indie. http://www.myspace.com/hatchamsocial For those of you traveling, I've compiled a list of local establishments where you can grab a bite to eat (and even a beer or tasty cocktail) before the show.... Get here before 6pm and visit The Cheese Shoppe for locally roasted gourmet coffees and tea!? (www.WCClarke.com) Questions about the show?? Please email the venue.? (www.TheStateTheatre.org) Questions about other area establishments?? Simply reply to this post!? Sit-down eating establishments (within walking distance): Allen Street Grille ~ midrange, local Arby's ~ low-end, chain Brother's Pizza ~ low-end, semi-local Chili's ~ mid-range, chain The Corner Room ~ low-end, local Five Guys ~ low-end, chain Golden Wok ~ mid-range, local Herwig's Austrian Bistro ~ mid-range, local? (Personally recommended, but keep reading...!) India Pavilion ~ mid-range, local (Be sure to check out the Cheese Shoppe, next door, before 6pm for locally-roasted coffees!)? Irving's Bagels ~ low-end, local Panera ~ mid-range, chain Penn State Sub Shop ~ low-end, local Qdoba ~ low-end, chainRotelli ~ mid-range, semi-local Sarina's II ~ mid-range, semi-local Spat's Cafe & Speakeasy ~ upscale, local Taco Bell ~ low-end, chain The Tarragon ~ upscale, semi-local The Tavern ~ mid-range, local Webster's Bookstore Cafe ~ low-end, local? (Locally blended teas and chai, gourmet coffee beverages and light nibbles...) Ye Olde College Diner ~ low-end, local Zeno's ~ upscale, local? (Beer-bar with pub-grub before 7pm) Zola ~ upscale, local Area restaurants (within short driving distance): Alto ~ upscale, localThe American Alehouse & Grille ~ upscale, local The Autoport ~ mid-range, local Baby's Burgers & Shakes ~ mid-range, localBelly Buster Burritos ~ low-end, semi-local Champs ~ mid-range sportsbar, local Corrinado's Pizza ~ low-to-mid-range, local (Vegan options!) Cozy Thai ~ mid-range, local The Deli ~ mid-range, localFaccia Luna ~ mid-range, local (Wood-fired pizza!) Fuji & Jade Garden ~ mid-range, local (Highly recommended!!! --Hey, I'm the bar manager there... Did I mention you can get the party started here?!?? Huge portions, plus top-shelf cocktails and microbrews!? Since it's my day off, Frankie will be taking care of you.? **Sit at the bar, mention you're going to the Echo & the Bunnymen show [before you order] and get a special deal!**)?Harrison's Wine Country Grille ~ upscale, local Hi-Way Pizza ~ mid-range, local Hooter's ~ low-end, chain Hoss's Steakhouse ~ mid-range, local Hunan Wok & Noodle House ~ low-end, local Kelly's Steakhouse ~ mid-range, local Kimchi ~ mid-range, local Mad Mex ~ mid-range, semi-local Mario & Luigi's ~ upscale, local McDonald's ~ low-end, chainOlde New York ~ mid-range, local Otto's ~ mid-range brewpub, localOutback Steakhouse ~ mid-range, chain Pizza Hut ~ mid-range, chain Quizno's Subs ~ low-end, chain Red Lobster ~ mid-range, chain Say Sushi ~ mid-range, localSeoul Garden ~ mid-range, local Viet-Thai ~ mid-range, local ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 07:40:14 -0500 From: Adam Rixey Subject: Re: [StClg--2009.11.18--AllAges] ECHO & THE BUNNYMEN I hate to break it to you, but the whole tour was cancelled yesterday due to tax issues. ------------------------------ From: "Brian J. Parker" Subject: Re: [StClg--2009.11.18--AllAges] ECHO & THE BUNNYMEN Oh my.? Last time I went to see E&tB, at a festival, the singer stormed offstage after about three minutes and they stopped playing.? Not a good band to make plans around, apparently. ******************** From scque at ymail.com Sun Nov 8 04:59:48 2009 From: scque at ymail.com (Sc'Eric (aka sc'Que?)) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 01:59:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: Bunnymen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <196139.56192.qm@web59813.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> You know, not everyone in State College is a college student, Manny.? I would also point out that we are equi-distant from Baltimore, Philly and Pgh.? So, really, booking State College COULD be a better option for small-venue bands who are looking to maximize their tour time.? Promoters who've come and gone from here have been thinking that for years.? But it's only recently that the town has grown enough to reasonably put us on the map.? If you'd visit here, you'd see that this town is nearly twice the size it was 20 yrs ago.? And though there are very few venues at our disposal, there is certainly no reason why the ones we do have shouldn't be employed to their fullest capacity. Likewise, I could surely go to a bigger city to sell the cocktails I mix.? Sure, there would already be people there who appreciate complex cocktails.? But that really wouldn't make the world a better place, would it?? It would just reinforce the status quo.? In the same way, if everyone in small towns perpetuate the mentality like you've expressed, those towns will only be stagnant, and State College will only succeed in being a white-trash, frat-boy college community.? Some of us, however, prefer to BE the change we wish to see in the world. ? ~sc'Que? -------------------------------- From: manny at garfieldartworks.com Subject: Echo & the Bunnymen What a strange place to book a Bunnymen gig, anyway. State College?? College kids have no idea who the Bunnymen are. Must have been the work of Drusky, he does a lot of shows at the State Theatre. From brian.j.parker at gmail.com Sun Nov 8 23:01:19 2009 From: brian.j.parker at gmail.com (Brian J. Parker) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:01:19 -0500 Subject: Bunnymen In-Reply-To: <124090.1015.qm@web59807.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <124090.1015.qm@web59807.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 4:12 AM, Sc'Eric (aka sc'Que?) wrote: > In my tiny world of experience, whenever a European band that I'm interested in seeing decides to tour the States, they get refused for one reason or another.? Seems that unless the band is playing stadium-sized venues or lies about their intent, they have no chance of touring here legally.? And even the latter of those two options can backfire. > > Manny, any commentary on that? That is pretty straightforward: work visas are prohibitively expensive. Only a stadium-filling band can make the kind of money to cover that expense, besides all the other expenses of transporting a number of people overseas and schlepping them around an unfamiliar country. Paperwork and background checks can take on the order of months, too. Many bands underestimate how long it will take. When you see a small band from out of the country, they have usually lied and claimed to be here as a tourist, as you said. I have heard of bands that had stateside promoters rent all the gear the need so they don't have to try to cross the border with it, raising suspicion. When it's a couple of guys with a keyboard, a mic, and a backing track, sometimes they can get away with it. A medium-sized band just can't do it. From scigirl543 at gmail.com Mon Nov 9 00:52:02 2009 From: scigirl543 at gmail.com (Maggie Fero) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:52:02 -0500 Subject: Help, please? It's easy, promise! ;) Message-ID: Hi, all! Some of you have probably seen me spamming this in the irc channel already, but I'm entering a modeling contest, and I need popular vote to have any chance at moving onto the next round. All support is appreciated :D My link is http://www.exploremodeling.com/Contest/Faceof_ELF_2010/17534/Margaret_Fero.aspxAll you have to do is click "vote" and answer the captcha. You can vote every day and "day" resets at (oddly) 4am EST. Thanks! Maggie Fero PS. If you have a question not answered below, feel free to ask me ;) FAQ: Yes, there's a key in my ear. I needed something for my gauge hole and had forgotten a plug. I've always wanted to do modeling stuff, and I've done artsy sorts of things, but never commercial stuff, and I really need some money, sooo....yeah. No, it has nothing to do with Christmas. E.L.F. is a cosmetics company. From manny at garfieldartworks.com Mon Nov 9 10:10:21 2009 From: manny at garfieldartworks.com (manny at garfieldartworks.com) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:10:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: Bunnymen / Warsaw Village Band In-Reply-To: References: <124090.1015.qm@web59807.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49349.70.20.99.68.1257779421.squirrel@webmail10.pair.com> Work visas are not only expensive, they can also be denied for any small or spurious reasons. Musicians usually having more drug use in their past than most (hence possible criminial records for it) that can be one of the problems. And if one person doesnt' have the paperwork in order for some reason, that can kill it for the whole group. etc. Rather than renting all gear, another way an international band can tour without arousing suspicion is by touring with an American counterpart band which provides all the backline. I booked several tours in the '90s this way (for example, Ghost & Magic Hour). -------- On a similar note, I just brought a great band from overseas that did have official visas thanks to invitations from the Polish embassy and so on. (When coming from overseas, it helps to play ethnic music from your country - they will give you a lot less shit than they would a rock band). WARSAW VILLAGE BAND drew 220 people to Synod Hall on Monday night. The concert was musically fantastic. Despite my having marketed to diverse audiences (the Calliope folk crowd, the Pandemic indie-hipsters, the goth/dark cabaret/gypsy/bellydance scene), none of those kinds of people showed up at all. Instead the concert was supported by almost 180 Polish people (three generations of them), and a sprinkling of others (most of whom were Pitt Students from the Pitt Arts ticket buy). So it was a success. WITHOUT YOU. (unfortunately) -mt > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 4:12 AM, Sc'Eric (aka sc'Que?) > wrote: >> In my tiny world of experience, whenever a European band that I'm >> interested in seeing decides to tour the States, they get refused for >> one reason or another.? Seems that unless the band is playing >> stadium-sized venues or lies about their intent, they have no chance of >> touring here legally.? And even the latter of those two options can >> backfire. >> >> Manny, any commentary on that? > > That is pretty straightforward: work visas are prohibitively > expensive. Only a stadium-filling band can make the kind of money to > cover that expense, besides all the other expenses of transporting a > number of people overseas and schlepping them around an unfamiliar > country. > > Paperwork and background checks can take on the order of months, too. > Many bands underestimate how long it will take. > > When you see a small band from out of the country, they have usually > lied and claimed to be here as a tourist, as you said. I have heard > of bands that had stateside promoters rent all the gear the need so > they don't have to try to cross the border with it, raising suspicion. > When it's a couple of guys with a keyboard, a mic, and a backing > track, sometimes they can get away with it. A medium-sized band just > can't do it. > _______________________________________________ > pgh-goth-list mailing list > pgh-goth-list at listless.org > http://www.listless.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-goth-list > From rapier1 at gmail.com Mon Nov 9 11:36:11 2009 From: rapier1 at gmail.com (Chris Rapier) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:36:11 -0500 Subject: Bunnymen / Warsaw Village Band In-Reply-To: <49349.70.20.99.68.1257779421.squirrel@webmail10.pair.com> References: <124090.1015.qm@web59807.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <49349.70.20.99.68.1257779421.squirrel@webmail10.pair.com> Message-ID: <17aa36ad0911090836h68b77cdy4b276ead37daab10@mail.gmail.com> > whom were Pitt Students from the Pitt Arts ticket buy). So it was a > success. WITHOUT YOU. (unfortunately) Which gets the point across without sounding like someone you don't want to give any money too. From rapier1 at gmail.com Mon Nov 9 11:39:33 2009 From: rapier1 at gmail.com (Chris Rapier) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:39:33 -0500 Subject: Bunnymen / Warsaw Village Band In-Reply-To: <49349.70.20.99.68.1257779421.squirrel@webmail10.pair.com> References: <124090.1015.qm@web59807.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <49349.70.20.99.68.1257779421.squirrel@webmail10.pair.com> Message-ID: <17aa36ad0911090839p5f5491e4l4a8033fa715e612b@mail.gmail.com> Crap. I can't use gmail at all today. My apologies for mail going out to the wrong people (Manny, I really did mean to do a reply to all, I'm sorry about spamming you directly) and for quoting things badly. I just wanted to get across that there was a different way of making the same point without causing any sort of negative reaction. Either way, I'm going to stay away from email until the coffee kicks in. On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:10 AM, wrote: > > Work visas are not only expensive, they can also be denied for any small > or spurious reasons. > Musicians usually having more drug use in their past than most (hence > possible criminial records for it) that can be one of the problems. And if > one person doesnt' have the paperwork in order for some reason, that can > kill it for the whole group. etc. > > Rather than renting all gear, another way an international band can tour > without arousing suspicion is by touring with an American counterpart band > which provides all the backline. I booked several tours in the '90s this > way (for example, Ghost & Magic Hour). > > -------- > > On a similar note, I just brought a great band from overseas that did have > official visas thanks to > invitations from the Polish embassy and so on. (When coming from overseas, > it helps to play ethnic music from your country - they will give you a lot > less shit than they would a rock band). > > WARSAW VILLAGE BAND drew 220 people to Synod Hall on Monday night. The > concert was musically fantastic. Despite my having marketed to diverse > audiences (the Calliope folk crowd, the Pandemic indie-hipsters, the > goth/dark cabaret/gypsy/bellydance scene), none of those kinds of people > showed up at all. Instead the concert was supported by almost 180 Polish > people (three generations of them), and a sprinkling of others (most of > whom were Pitt Students from the Pitt Arts ticket buy). So it was a > success. WITHOUT YOU. (unfortunately) > > -mt > >> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 4:12 AM, Sc'Eric (aka sc'Que?) >> wrote: >>> In my tiny world of experience, whenever a European band that I'm >>> interested in seeing decides to tour the States, they get refused for >>> one reason or another.? Seems that unless the band is playing >>> stadium-sized venues or lies about their intent, they have no chance of >>> touring here legally.? And even the latter of those two options can >>> backfire. >>> >>> Manny, any commentary on that? >> >> That is pretty straightforward: work visas are prohibitively >> expensive. ?Only a stadium-filling band can make the kind of money to >> cover that expense, besides all the other expenses of transporting a >> number of people overseas and schlepping them around an unfamiliar >> country. >> >> Paperwork and background checks can take on the order of months, too. >> Many bands underestimate how long it will take. >> >> When you see a small band from out of the country, they have usually >> lied and claimed to be here as a tourist, as you said. ?I have heard >> of bands that had stateside promoters rent all the gear the need so >> they don't have to try to cross the border with it, raising suspicion. >> ?When it's a couple of guys with a keyboard, a mic, and a backing >> track, sometimes they can get away with it. ?A medium-sized band just >> can't do it. >> _______________________________________________ >> pgh-goth-list mailing list >> pgh-goth-list at listless.org >> http://www.listless.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-goth-list >> > > _______________________________________________ > pgh-goth-list mailing list > pgh-goth-list at listless.org > http://www.listless.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-goth-list > From manny at garfieldartworks.com Mon Nov 9 11:56:47 2009 From: manny at garfieldartworks.com (manny at garfieldartworks.com) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:56:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: Bunnymen / Warsaw Village Band In-Reply-To: <17aa36ad0911090835o1e17983cp7780358d46540b0a@mail.gmail.com> References: <124090.1015.qm@web59807.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <49349.70.20.99.68.1257779421.squirrel@webmail10.pair.com> <17aa36ad0911090835o1e17983cp7780358d46540b0a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49669.70.20.99.68.1257785807.squirrel@webmail6.pair.com> sorry, but that polite version doesn't take into consideration how disappointed I was that I widely promoted this show to a bunch of audiences who should have been directly interested, namely: 1) the Calliope boomer-folk crowd (400 inserts in the Klezmatics programs, e-blasts to their mailing list, announcement on their website) 2) the indie 'Pandemic' global beats/Balkan-hipster crowd (constant reminders on the Roboto Board, handbilling at the Hawk & A Hacksaw show, flyers at Brillobox, etc) 3) the goth/dark cabaret/gypsy crowd (extensive South Side flyering, handbilling at Voltaire, announcements on this list, flyering at YIV, inserts in the menus at Gypsy Cafe, etc) none of whom showed up at all. and yet the show squeaked out a considerable success without any of those people thanks simply to a large turnout of Poles, plus the largesse of Pitt Arts, and the PA Council on the Arts. that is what i meant. and when I do that much promotion work without any results, it grates on the nerves. because I could've been doing something else instead. plus it shows how little most people around here care about paying attention to an event that was truly unique and unusual, yet eminently accessible and enjoyable. so what else is new. -mt >> whom were Pitt Students from the Pitt Arts ticket buy). So it was a >> success. WITHOUT YOU. (unfortunately) > > See If I was writing that I would have said > "And the show was a great success and would have been even better WITH > YOU" > > Which gets the point across without sounding like someone you don't > want to give any money too. > From brian.j.parker at gmail.com Mon Nov 9 12:08:45 2009 From: brian.j.parker at gmail.com (Brian J. Parker) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:08:45 -0500 Subject: Bunnymen / Warsaw Village Band In-Reply-To: <49669.70.20.99.68.1257785807.squirrel@webmail6.pair.com> References: <124090.1015.qm@web59807.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <49349.70.20.99.68.1257779421.squirrel@webmail10.pair.com> <17aa36ad0911090835o1e17983cp7780358d46540b0a@mail.gmail.com> <49669.70.20.99.68.1257785807.squirrel@webmail6.pair.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:56 AM, wrote: > and when I do that much promotion work without any results, it grates on > the nerves. because I could've been doing something else instead. Can't see fliers if I never leave the house. Of course, agoraphobia would prevent one from going to a show anyway, probably, wouldn't it? Also, I don't think you could be doing something other than promoting any more than I could be doing something other than playing video games and engaging in auto-eroticism with a watermelon with a hole drilled in the side and a picture of Winona Ryder in Beetlejuice taped to the top. Er, am I dating myself with that reference? (Wait for it, you'll get the pun in just a second...) From arixey at gmail.com Mon Nov 9 12:11:17 2009 From: arixey at gmail.com (Adam Rixey) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:11:17 -0500 Subject: Bunnymen / Warsaw Village Band In-Reply-To: References: <124090.1015.qm@web59807.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <49349.70.20.99.68.1257779421.squirrel@webmail10.pair.com> <17aa36ad0911090835o1e17983cp7780358d46540b0a@mail.gmail.com> <49669.70.20.99.68.1257785807.squirrel@webmail6.pair.com> Message-ID: It would have been better if the watermelon had a picture of Peter Weller on it. Why? I'll tell you later. On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Brian J. Parker wrote: > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:56 AM, wrote: > > and when I do that much promotion work without any results, it grates on > > the nerves. because I could've been doing something else instead. > > Can't see fliers if I never leave the house. Of course, agoraphobia > would prevent one from going to a show anyway, probably, wouldn't it? > > Also, I don't think you could be doing something other than promoting > any more than I could be doing something other than playing video > games and engaging in auto-eroticism with a watermelon with a hole > drilled in the side and a picture of Winona Ryder in Beetlejuice taped > to the top. Er, am I dating myself with that reference? (Wait for > it, you'll get the pun in just a second...) > _______________________________________________ > pgh-goth-list mailing list > pgh-goth-list at listless.org > http://www.listless.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-goth-list > -- Adam Rixey arixey at gmail.com From rapier1 at gmail.com Mon Nov 9 13:07:45 2009 From: rapier1 at gmail.com (Chris Rapier) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:07:45 -0500 Subject: Bunnymen / Warsaw Village Band In-Reply-To: <49669.70.20.99.68.1257785807.squirrel@webmail6.pair.com> References: <124090.1015.qm@web59807.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <49349.70.20.99.68.1257779421.squirrel@webmail10.pair.com> <17aa36ad0911090835o1e17983cp7780358d46540b0a@mail.gmail.com> <49669.70.20.99.68.1257785807.squirrel@webmail6.pair.com> Message-ID: <17aa36ad0911091007iefc500fi7a15dd33d04e819a@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:56 AM, wrote: > > sorry, but that polite version doesn't take into consideration how > disappointed I was that I widely promoted this show to a bunch of > audiences who should have been directly interested, namely: I can understand your disappointment but expressing that disappointment to potential customers just seems self defeating. However, we've had this conversation many times in the past. We just have different views on how to go about attracting and retaining customers. Regardless of my opinion, what you do seems to work well enough. From rapier1 at gmail.com Mon Nov 9 13:08:26 2009 From: rapier1 at gmail.com (Chris Rapier) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:08:26 -0500 Subject: Bunnymen / Warsaw Village Band In-Reply-To: References: <124090.1015.qm@web59807.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <49349.70.20.99.68.1257779421.squirrel@webmail10.pair.com> <17aa36ad0911090835o1e17983cp7780358d46540b0a@mail.gmail.com> <49669.70.20.99.68.1257785807.squirrel@webmail6.pair.com> Message-ID: <17aa36ad0911091008r7acc7cabp4cb64e72eb62898e@mail.gmail.com> Woah, I've not seen a BB reference this good in years. Well played sir! Well played! On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Adam Rixey wrote: > It would have been better if the watermelon had a picture of Peter Weller on > it. > > Why? ?I'll tell you later. > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Brian J. Parker > wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:56 AM, ? wrote: >> > and when I do that much promotion work without any results, it grates on >> > the nerves. because I could've been doing something else instead. >> >> Can't see fliers if I never leave the house. ?Of course, agoraphobia >> would prevent one from going to a show anyway, probably, wouldn't it? >> >> Also, I don't think you could be doing something other than promoting >> any more than I could be doing something other than playing video >> games and engaging in auto-eroticism with a watermelon with a hole >> drilled in the side and a picture of Winona Ryder in Beetlejuice taped >> to the top. ?Er, am I dating myself with that reference? ?(Wait for >> it, you'll get the pun in just a second...) >> _______________________________________________ >> pgh-goth-list mailing list >> pgh-goth-list at listless.org >> http://www.listless.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-goth-list >> > > > > -- > Adam Rixey > arixey at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > pgh-goth-list mailing list > pgh-goth-list at listless.org > http://www.listless.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-goth-list > From jdecay at att.net Tue Nov 24 11:33:29 2009 From: jdecay at att.net (jdecay at att.net) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:33:29 +0000 Subject: Lucas Lanthier on Monday At Istanbul In-Reply-To: References: <124090.1015.qm@web59807.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <112420091633.27224.4B0C0AD9000D244000006A5822228869349B0A02D29B9B0EBF970E0C0A0B06@att.net> I just heard about this from Jim - Definitely for folks into Goth / Dark Cabaret music: Trisol recording artist from NYC LUCAS LANTHIER (of the Deadfly Ensemble) with special guest Adam's Family Mon Nov 30 8 pm all ages $8 adv/$10 door Istanbul (formerly Your Inner Vagabond), 4130 Butler St, Lawrenceville tickets on sale: Eide's, Paul's CDs, Dave's Music Mine, Slacker, WickedDiscs, The Exchange Sq Hill I think Lucas Lanthier also guested on the latest Black Tape for a Blue Girl, "10 Neaurotics." Should be a cool show. J From brian.j.parker at gmail.com Tue Nov 24 12:00:33 2009 From: brian.j.parker at gmail.com (Brian J. Parker) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:00:33 -0500 Subject: Lucas Lanthier on Monday At Istanbul In-Reply-To: <112420091633.27224.4B0C0AD9000D244000006A5822228869349B0A02D29B9B0EBF970E0C0A0B06@att.net> References: <124090.1015.qm@web59807.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <112420091633.27224.4B0C0AD9000D244000006A5822228869349B0A02D29B9B0EBF970E0C0A0B06@att.net> Message-ID: Completely randomly: I sometimes get lunch at Istanbul Cafe's other location downtown, and their food is AMAZING. Go for dinner, stay for the show. On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:33 AM, wrote: > I just heard about this from Jim - Definitely for folks into Goth / Dark Cabaret music: > > Trisol recording artist from NYC LUCAS LANTHIER (of the Deadfly Ensemble) with special guest Adam's Family Mon Nov 30 8 pm all ages $8 adv/$10 door Istanbul (formerly Your Inner Vagabond), 4130 Butler St, Lawrenceville tickets on sale: Eide's, Paul's CDs, Dave's Music Mine, Slacker, WickedDiscs, The Exchange Sq Hill > > I think Lucas Lanthier also guested on the latest Black Tape for a Blue Girl, "10 Neaurotics." Should be a cool show. > > J > _______________________________________________ > pgh-goth-list mailing list > pgh-goth-list at listless.org > http://www.listless.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-goth-list >