Voices of Masada, et.al

[Sc'Eric (aka darkFIN)]

So, does anyone have any serious thoughts on the attendance problem???  I really don't know how Philly holds as a many events as they do.  Their carrying capacity is much larger than most places....  Still, my thought is that there are currently too many weekly events.  Perhaps promoters need to scale back the frequency, while still making it a regular thing?  
 
I'd be curious to know how Jim's numbers compare at Eide's.  Are the diminishing numbers concurrent with events trends or are folks just prioritising their more-limited funds toward something more tangible?  (Of course, the whole filesharing thing throws a wildcard in there that makes it hard to gauge, too.)  I know I'm personally working 17 hours more per week than I was 10 years ago, making not much more than I was then--plus, when you account for inflation... maybe less.  I'm definitely drinking less, enjoying better food (but much less often) and have a much more limited social life.    
 
It's time to shake things up, dammit!!!  We need to look at this in a different way.  What is and isn't working in the scene, Pgh at least?  Why didn't folks to go VoM?  To those who went, why didn't you go to the noise show last month or whatever other show you decided not to hit?  It just seems to me that when folks aren't going out, the promoters never know why and can't plan accordingly.  Promoters also can't currently hold events often enough to gauge necessary demographics.  Should bigger shows happen on a less-frequent-but-regular basis?  I'm talking bigger-name festivals and events like Providence Industrial Festival and Drac's Ball, instead of single-headliner shows like usually happen.
 
Yes, they take much-much more planning, but if you can convince 400 ppl to all take off work the same day by promoting months in advance is better than expecting 100 and getting 20.  Am I making sense?
 
~sc'eric    

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 16:54:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: RPD girl 
Subject: Voices of Masada

I thought they were pretty awesome, but shame, there
was like, noone there. 

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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 20:43:11 -0400
From: "Jordan Harris" 
Subject: Re: Voices of Masada

Agreed. While I wouldn't say they're a ground-breaking band, they're
definitely skilled and know what they're doing. And from a brief
conversation, pretty friendly. It's a pretty rare occasion when a Goth rock
band comes to town these days.

But this sort of thing is pretty common here. Within the last few years,
concert attendance has gotten worse and worse at shows. It's become a grim
fact for most bands and promoters. First time Attrition came to Pittsburgh,
there was at least 150 people there. The second time, it was more like 30,
at the most.

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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 20:59:25 -0400
From: "Michael J. Salo" 
Subject: Re: Voices of Masada

It isn't limited to Pgh either - the last couple shows I've caught at 
Alchemy NY have had like 15 people in attendance (and 10 of them were in 
the bands).

Michael J. Salo
www.strangefortune.com

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 02:50:57 -0400
From: "Brian J. Parker" 

Subject: Re: Voices of Masada

Also agreed. As I noted in my blog it was "much like being at an
early Fields of the Nephilim show; minus the flour, silly hats, and
spectators."

They're really smart, interesting chaps too. I got to talk to them
for a few hours and could have for a few more if we weren't exhausted
and drunk.

Brian


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