quittin' smoking

[Mike Yacht]

Actually I don't think Chris smokes, he just doesn't like people telling him
what to do.  IIRC.


- Mike 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: pgh-goth-list-bounces at listless.org [mailto:pgh-goth-list-
> bounces at listless.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy David
> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:29 PM
> To: pgh-goth-list at listless.org
> Subject: Re: quittin' smoking
> 
> On 3/14/06, Chris Rapier <rapier1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Of course the point is really that you think other people should
> > change their behaviour to suit your needs.
> 
> Yes, you think other people should become second-hand smokers to suit
> your need to smoke!
> 
> 
> > As such you feel that your
> > rights are more 'valid' than their rights. Obviously this all becomes
> > moot if legislation is passed as rights aren't really anything other
> > than a legal fiction.
> >
> > On 3/14/06, ysobelle at aol.com <ysobelle at aol.com> wrote:
> > >  > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: pgh-goth-list-bounces at listless.org [mailto:pgh-goth-list-
> > > > > bounces at listless.org] On Behalf Of Chris Rapier
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 10:49 AM
> > > > > Cc: pgh-goth-list at listless.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: quittin' smoking
> > > > >
> > > > > See my whole feeling is that if you don't like the smoke you don't
> > > > > have to go there. Everyone makes choices in life and its really a
> > > > > matter of what option is most important to you. If going to a club
> or
> > > > > a bar that has smoking is more important than not being around
> smoke
> > > > > then thats your choice. Obviously, this is just as true for
> smokers.
> > > > > If going to a non-smoking place is more imporatnt to you than
> having a
> > > > > smoke then that is their choice. Each group respects the others
> > > > > boundaries and behaves themselves when they made the choice to go
> > > > > either type of location.
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hold on a sec. I'm coming a little late to the party here, but this
> doesn't quite track to me.
> > >
> > >
> > > Say I want to go to a show. I can go if I want, but I know there'll be
> folks swinging large meat cleavers standing on the dance floor. I can go
> as long as I can avoid the meat cleavers. There's my choice.
> > >
> > > Now, I want to go to a show, and there'll be smokers there. I can
> avoid the people, but their smoke will be everywhere. I cannot go to the
> show and avoid it.
> > >
> > > If people can smoke at a venue and not, say, exhale, okay, that's
> fine. But until then, non-smokers are really stuck. I'd rather be able to
> decide to go out based on if I want to see the show or not, not if I can
> stand the audience poisoning the air or not.
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