quittin' smoking

Jeremy David epistemology at gmail.com
Tue Mar 14 12:29:05 EST 2006


On 3/14/06, Chris Rapier <rapier1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Of course the point is really that you think other people should
> change their behaviour to suit your needs.

Yes, you think other people should become second-hand smokers to suit
your need to smoke!


> As such you feel that your
> rights are more 'valid' than their rights. Obviously this all becomes
> moot if legislation is passed as rights aren't really anything other
> than a legal fiction.
>
> On 3/14/06, ysobelle at aol.com <ysobelle at aol.com> wrote:
> >  > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: pgh-goth-list-bounces at listless.org [mailto:pgh-goth-list-
> > > > bounces at listless.org] On Behalf Of Chris Rapier
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 10:49 AM
> > > > Cc: pgh-goth-list at listless.org
> > > > Subject: Re: quittin' smoking
> > > >
> > > > See my whole feeling is that if you don't like the smoke you don't
> > > > have to go there. Everyone makes choices in life and its really a
> > > > matter of what option is most important to you. If going to a club or
> > > > a bar that has smoking is more important than not being around smoke
> > > > then thats your choice. Obviously, this is just as true for smokers.
> > > > If going to a non-smoking place is more imporatnt to you than having a
> > > > smoke then that is their choice. Each group respects the others
> > > > boundaries and behaves themselves when they made the choice to go
> > > > either type of location.
> > > >
> >
> >
> > Hold on a sec. I'm coming a little late to the party here, but this doesn't quite track to me.
> >
> >
> > Say I want to go to a show. I can go if I want, but I know there'll be folks swinging large meat cleavers standing on the dance floor. I can go as long as I can avoid the meat cleavers. There's my choice.
> >
> > Now, I want to go to a show, and there'll be smokers there. I can avoid the people, but their smoke will be everywhere. I cannot go to the show and avoid it.
> >
> > If people can smoke at a venue and not, say, exhale, okay, that's fine. But until then, non-smokers are really stuck. I'd rather be able to decide to go out based on if I want to see the show or not, not if I can stand the audience poisoning the air or not.
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