pgh-goth-list Digest, Vol 74, Issue 2

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Roll Call (Mick)
  2. Re: Roll Call (j. eric townsend)
  3. Upcoming concerts in Pittsburgh (manny at garfieldartworks.com)
  4. Re: Roll Call (manny at garfieldartworks.com)
  5. Re: Roll Call (Danielle Biconik)
  6. Re: Roll Call (Adam Rixey)
  7. Re: Roll Call (DennisCraigLee at aol.com)
  8. Re: Roll Call (Degan)
  9. Re: Roll Call (joel monyok)
 10. Re: Roll Call (jdecay at att.net)
 11. Re: Roll Call (Christopher tm)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 12:38:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Mick" <mick at freedminds.com>
Subject: Re: Roll Call
To: pgh-goth-list at listless.org
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Here.


If you all would indulge me in a
roll call with a bit about yourselves, that would be most kind.

As is only fair, I'll start.

Jordan Harris (or Jordan Decay, if you prefer), once of Carmilla's Dress,
but for a number of years the fellow behind the Jordan Decay spoken word /
dark ambient project, and the mini-zine called The Burnt Library.
_______________________________________________




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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:10:06 -0400
From: "j. eric townsend" <jet at flatline.net>
Subject: Re: Roll Call
To: jdecay at att.net
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Moved here from the SF Bay Area four years ago for grad school, don't go 
out as much as I'd like to.   I know some of you in person and others 
only from teh interwebs.

Listening to a lot of electro and cyber lately, but still listen to 
80s/90s industrial and goth.

-- 
J. E. 'jet' Townsend, IDSA
Designer, Fabricator, Hacker
design: www.allartburns.org; hacking: www.flatline.net;  HF: KG6ZVQ
PGP: 0xD0D8C2E8 AC9B 0A23 C61A 1B4A 27C5 F799 A681 3C11 D0D8 C2E8


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:12:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: manny at garfieldartworks.com
Subject: Upcoming concerts in Pittsburgh
To: pgh-goth-list at listless.org
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Here are some things you might want to check out:

1. dark apocalyptic Christian doom-country featuring the frontman from 16
Horsepower.
   if you like Michael Gira's Angels of Light and you want to experience
a band that is way darker
than the Bad Seeds, check out:
   WOVENHAND
  with opener Chris Niels
   Fri Oct 9  9 pm  21+  $10 advance/$12 door
  Thunderbird Cafe, 4023 Liberty Ave., Lawrenceville.
  The T-Bird is conveniently located and has a great sounding system.
  Tickets are on sale now at Eide's, Paul's CDs, Dave's Music Mine,
Caliban Books, Wicked Discs, The Exchange Squirrel Hill, Acoustic Music
Works, & Garfield Artworks, or can be purchased online at the T-Bird's
website www.thunderbirdcafe.net

2. IDM/electronic dance show:

 yes it's CMU mid-semester break. but we're hoping a lot of the local
IDM/leftfield dance nerds
 will be coming out at this. it would also be great to have some cool,
fashionable people dressed
 in stripes and dots and pastels. makeup is optional.

DARK PARTY (Elliott Lipp + Leo 123) and MUX MOOL (Ghostly Intl)
with locals Tom & Rexy, and Jonny Jitters
Sat Oct 17  at Frame Gallery, Forbes & Margaret Morrison, Carnegie Mellon
9 pm   $7 general/$5 CMU ID  all ages

3: goth icon VOLTAIRE returns for a special Halloween edition of "Empire"
  with Hellblinki  (dark-cabaret from North Carolina) and Patricia Wake
  Fri Oct 23   $15 advance/$18 door  all ages
  Rex Theater, 1602  E Carson St on the South Side
  Tickets are on sale now at Eide's, Paul's CDs, Dave's Music Mine,
Slacker, Caliban Books, The Wicked Discs, and The Exchange Squirrel
Hill.

4. if you like the modern folk movement that mixes authentic European
traditions with a bit of
   darkness, a bit of danceability, and a lot of youthful energy (e.g.
Scandinavian bands like
   Vartiina, Hedningarna, and Valravn), this is the exact Polish
equivalent of it.

    WARSAW VILLAGE BAND    www.warsawvillageband.net
    Mon Nov 2   all ages   $15 advance/$20 door
    Synod Hall Auditorium, 125 N Craig (behind St Paul Cathedral), Oakland
    tickets on sale at Eide's, Paul's CDs, Dave's Music Mine, Caliban
Books, The Exchange Squirrel Hill, Acoustic Music Works, Garfield
Artworks, Alfred's Deli (Polish Hill), S&D Deli (Strip District).
     this event is co-sponsored with the Polish Cultural Council and
Calliope Folk Music Society.

can't say there's nothing to do, can you?



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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:59:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: manny at garfieldartworks.com
Subject: Re: Roll Call
To: "metalforever" <sayspo at gmail.com>
Cc: pgh-goth-list at listless.org
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Hi Sarah-

I'm the promoter who put on the first-ever Pittsburgh concert promoted as
"goth": "an evening of gothic rock" - January, 23 1988, here's the image
of the poster:
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=88727932&albumID=1941547&imageID=27792555

and have been doing dark music shows ever since, working with everyone
from Death in June to Christian Death to Xymox (by the way, I recently
communicated with Ronny
Moorings - he would love to do another US tour if he can find a reliable
booker!). Since (unlike many people in the local scene) my interests swing
wide into all sorts of underground, indie,
avant-garde & experimental musics, you will find much that I do that may
"cross over" into goth interests (like, say, an IDM or harsh noise show) 
but is not strictly goth or industrial per se.

If you are interested in the live music and goth culture, and don't mind
reguarly hyphenating goth with its apparent sister term "industrial", then
there is no shortage of live performance to check out in the area. The
most active promoters are myself and the dudes from Distortion Productions
(Jim Semonik of Reinforced and his [acu]crack team] and we also work
together to bring the heat.
There are also other events as well - a fetish concert last week at the
Rex with local bands Prometheus Burning and Agnes Wired for Sound was
enjoyable as well.

Last night, Slick Idiot played at Pegasus to about 60 people. So,
unfortunately, even for prominent
live bands, there is limited interest here. I think this is because a lot
of the old people either stick to only DJ nights or just stay home out of
Brian's aforementioned anxiety. And the younger kids
get their info from Hot Topic, so they are more likely to show up at shows
where there are screamo metalcore bands with makeup and autotune and
crouching, or neo-Juggalo type groups (eg MSI), or maybe (if we're lucky)
some band that gets its influences from the Dresden Dolls, and they don't
really know anything about the history of either goth *or* industrial.

Only maybe once or twice a year you might see 300 people in one place.
That almost always means that VNV Nation, Combichrist, or Cruxshadows are
in town.

What I find interesting is that at this point, dark music has spun off
into so many subcategories
that it's particularly difficult to please a whole lot of people unless
the band is already very well
known. For example, the recent trend in the past several years of the
Balkan bands (Gogol Bordello, Balkan Beatbox, etc) has a lot to recommend
it to the dark-cabaret audience but the goths don't necessarily cross over
into it. Circus-punkers World Inferno Friendship Society now has one of
the two Dresden Dolls members as their drummer, but you don't see Dolls
fans flocking to see WIFS here. Cliquey attitudes like that don't help
open any minds.

Anyway, we hope to see you soon at some live events. In a separate post, I
will list some live event you may want to check out.

-mt

Ey, My name is Sarah Spock,
Id venture to guess no one on this mailing list knows who I am.  I was
part of the goth scene in my hometown, and recently moved to
pittsburgh.  I joined the mailing list so i could get a good idea
about when and where shows are held.   It seems to be mostly DJ, and
im more interested in the live aspect of goth music and the culture
which surrounds it.



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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 13:55:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Danielle Biconik <daniellebiconik at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Roll Call
To: pgh-goth-list at listless.org
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I'm still here - been around since I was jail bait 12+ years ago.  I think the first gothy show I went to was Gossamer and  Mindless Faith at the Beehive in the early autumn of 1997 - just turned 16 :)  From then on, I was in PGH about once or twice a month for G/I clubnights and shows (traveling from Indiana County). I lived in PGH at The Shady House in 2001-2002, then moved back to Indiana PA to finish up my undergrad. Had a radio show on Pitt's station in 2002 and IUP's station 2003 and 2004 I think.  Sang with a couple spooky projects.  I live in PGH again (since 6/2007). I don't go out much these days, but every once in a while, I'll go to a show (gonna see Diamanda next week!) or show up at a spooky music dj night. I think I should get out a little more, but I am turning a little bit reclusive and smoky places give me a headache and I really have to be in the mood to get dolled up.

But yeah. Present!

Danielle Biconik/Agape Lust/Whatever other spooky nickname I had when I was 17




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From: "jdecay at att.net" <jdecay at att.net>
To: pgh-goth-list at listless.org
Sent: Friday, October 2, 2009 10:44:22 AM
Subject: Roll Call

With this list having the longest history of all the Pittsburgh Goth networking options, I'm curious who still is on here (or if it's just down to Manny, a handful of others, and me). If you all would indulge me in a roll call with a bit about yourselves, that would be most kind.

As is only fair, I'll start.

Jordan Harris (or Jordan Decay, if you prefer), once of Carmilla's Dress, but for a number of years the fellow behind the Jordan Decay spoken word / dark ambient project, and the mini-zine called The Burnt Library.
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:36:07 -0400
From: Adam Rixey <arixey at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Roll Call
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I'm still here, since this list is so low-traffic I haven't bothered to
unsubscribe.  (That and I know a bunch of the old-timers and like to keep
up.)  I no longer live in Pittsburgh, and am no longer that much into goth
or industrial.

-- 
Adam Rixey
arixey at gmail.com


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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 20:26:32 EDT
From: DennisCraigLee at aol.com
Subject: Re: Roll Call
To: pgh-goth-list at listless.org
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Dennis C. Lee, previously with Vequinox, The Venusians, THUS, Mr. E and the 
Necromantics, and The Living Daylights. Currently solo keyboard sets, 
mostly in Westmoreland County.

I like staying connected with pgh goth list for the occasional show that I 
might not notice in CP. And of course gossip, though there hasn't been much 
of that of late.

ever,
- - ==D e n n i s


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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 20:42:35 -0400
From: Degan <degan001 at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Roll Call
To: pgh-goth-list at listless.org
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 Greetings

     I used to post under my SCA* name and title, "Lord Degan" .  I  
still go by Degan on the internet  because I mostly post on SCA and  
neopagan related lists.  Most of my friends from the goth scene just  
use my real name, Jeff Foehringer.

      I've been here since 1996.  I can remember seeing 'Carmilla's  
Dress' when Jordan was a member back at Luciano's on Forbes.  Manny's  
Damnation series were the first concerts I attended in Pittsburgh.

    I have no Goth street cred, except that I attended Ceremony  
regularly for it's first three years at Laga, and for it's last four  
years at The Upstage.  I was there the first night that the Night  
Shift took over, and I was there for the last night at Upstage.  Never  
went to Pegasus much except for a few concerts.   Live concerts are  
almost all I do now, since I'm too old to be dancing like a freak at  
nightclubs.

Jeff

* SCA = Society for Creative Anachronism.     Just google it if you  
want to know more.







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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 21:58:55 -0400
From: joel monyok <jmonyok at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Roll Call
To: Degan <degan001 at verizon.net>
Cc: pgh-goth-list at listless.org
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   <7ba344a40910021858g700d67d6l24cb21a1b7ed9b54 at mail.gmail.com>
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I would love to see these concerts, how do i make sure I do not miss
them in the future? I saw Combichrist in Chi-town and was in brazil
when psyclon 9 showed-what a bummer. I have problems finding a concise
site for live shows. i have to check many places to get the info I
need for shows in the "burgh. I am very interested in the live shows.

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Degan <degan001 at verizon.net> wrote:

?Greetings

? ? I used to post under my SCA* name and title, "Lord Degan" . ?I still go
by Degan on the internet ?because I mostly post on SCA and neopagan related
lists. ?Most of my friends from the goth scene just use my real name, Jeff
Foehringer.

? ? ?I've been here since 1996. ?I can remember seeing 'Carmilla's Dress'
when Jordan was a member back at Luciano's on Forbes. ?Manny's Damnation
series were the first concerts I attended in Pittsburgh.

? ?I have no Goth street cred, except that I attended Ceremony regularly for
it's first three years at Laga, and for it's last four years at The Upstage.
?I was there the first night that the Night Shift took over, and I was there
for the last night at Upstage. ?Never went to Pegasus much except for a few
concerts. ? Live concerts are almost all I do now, since I'm too old to be
dancing like a freak at nightclubs.

Jeff

* SCA = Society for Creative Anachronism. ? ? Just google it if you want to
know more.





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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 13:35:29 +0000
From: jdecay at att.net
Subject: Re: Roll Call
To: pgh-goth-list at listless.org
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To plug my own work, the Burnt Library always has a concert listing in the back. While I do miss some events, I daresay it's pretty extensive.

I keep meaning to start posting the events listing to this list. Maybe I'll get to doing so finally...

J
-------------- Original message from joel monyok <jmonyok at gmail.com>: --------------


I would love to see these concerts, how do i make sure I do not miss
them in the future? I saw Combichrist in Chi-town and was in brazil
when psyclon 9 showed-what a bummer. I have problems finding a concise
site for live shows. i have to check many places to get the info I
need for shows in the "burgh. I am very interested in the live shows.

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Degan  wrote:

Greetings

   I used to post under my SCA* name and title, "Lord Degan" .  I still go
by Degan on the internet  because I mostly post on SCA and neopagan related
lists.  Most of my friends from the goth scene just use my real name, Jeff
Foehringer.

    I've been here since 1996.  I can remember seeing 'Carmilla's Dress'
when Jordan was a member back at Luciano's on Forbes.  Manny's Damnation
series were the first concerts I attended in Pittsburgh.

  I have no Goth street cred, except that I attended Ceremony regularly for
it's first three years at Laga, and for it's last four years at The Upstage.
I was there the first night that the Night Shift took over, and I was there
for the last night at Upstage.  Never went to Pegasus much except for a few
concerts.   Live concerts are almost all I do now, since I'm too old to be
dancing like a freak at nightclubs.

Jeff

* SCA = Society for Creative Anachronism.     Just google it if you want to
know more.





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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 09:55:32 -0400
From: Christopher tm <xopher.tm at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Roll Call
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On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 10:44 AM,  <jdecay at att.net> wrote:
With this list having the longest history of all the Pittsburgh Goth networking options, I'm curious who still is on here (or if it's just down to Manny, a handful of others, and me). If you all would indulge me in a roll call with a bit about yourselves, that would be most kind.

As is only fair, I'll start.

Jordan Harris (or Jordan Decay, if you prefer), once of Carmilla's Dress, but for a number of years the fellow behind the Jordan Decay spoken word / dark ambient project, and the mini-zine called The Burnt Library.

Here.

Christopher Mattick AKA Christopher tm

Retired DJ (Lip Service/Carousel), former gallery owner (Helios Arts -
South Side/Shadyside), occasional maker of electroacoustic noise (Mile
97).

My gothcred is low these days in Pittsburgh, though I was recently at
Sunn O))) and Slick Idiot and will be at Diamanda next week.


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